tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post1172261899019405639..comments2023-11-03T09:15:38.743-04:00Comments on The Daily Hab-it: Intentions vs actionsArpon Basuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11896844844557916169noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-65061020689010111832010-10-06T10:57:41.788-04:002010-10-06T10:57:41.788-04:00I think everyone is focussing on the one event of ...I think everyone is focussing on the one event of the hit on Cammy. Usually the cause of such an unusual outburst is something that has happened earlier or throughout the game. To assess this properly one would need to track the interactions or what was said between the two players (like "your mother is a ..."). I doubt the single hit precipitated Cammy's apparently irrational behaviour. Cammy is too classy a guy to get into it in public.Rocket fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11202071336060898319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-44836655001098890052010-10-04T16:26:23.688-04:002010-10-04T16:26:23.688-04:00ahh sometimes I really miss pre lockout hockey. My...ahh sometimes I really miss pre lockout hockey. My thoughts mirror craig's exactly. Nino wanted to clock cammy while he had his head down (no, I don't see anything dirty about laying a big hit on a careless opponent, I applaud it) - cammy took offence to it, maybe cause it came from a supposedly mouthy rookie in a preseason game and sent him a message. No harm done. Pre lockout Nino would've dropped 'em after the slash, him and cammy would have a tillie and we'd get to watch highlights of fight and the ensuing bench clearing brawl rather than spend the following week debating motives, physics, and philosophical implications.Milos Cokohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01191896901150447796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-27661128342099011522010-10-04T14:24:23.403-04:002010-10-04T14:24:23.403-04:00I'd say the stick to the face was pretty nasty...I'd say the stick to the face was pretty nasty and dangerous but I have no problem with the rest - even if he does get suspended. Kid had it coming.<br /><br />On another note. Guerin was let go from philly. would you give him a contract for around a 1 million?<br />top 9 would look like this:<br /><br />Cammalleri-Pleks-Kostitsyn<br />Guerin-Gomez-Gionta<br />Pouliot-Eller-Lapierre<br /><br />thats not bad... cap space you say? thats easy - demote obyrne.pmkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01756968339001828803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-88233462777834933372010-10-04T14:13:50.002-04:002010-10-04T14:13:50.002-04:00"Nino was trying to lop off Cammy's head ..."Nino was trying to lop off Cammy's head and physics got in the way."<br /><br />As Arpon said, if Nino wanted to take off Cammy's head, he easily could have. Cammy had his head down, so the chance was there and Nino decided not to. It was a clean hit.Will Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200982656582974778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-61326488761614769172010-10-04T12:47:07.682-04:002010-10-04T12:47:07.682-04:00"who cares what he was trying to do" com..."who cares what he was trying to do" come on man. We should be looking at the act and the intention, not the result. Nino was trying to lop off Cammy's head and physics got in the way. None of this justifies Mike's temper flaring but to pretend that Nino didn't have it coming or at the very least didn't put himself into this situation is to be ignorant of the facts of playing hockey. The swiss miss was trying to make a name for himself and he failed so miserably he can't skate for weeks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07276885021995820771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-81156953068763113872010-10-04T11:44:57.840-04:002010-10-04T11:44:57.840-04:00Lets call a spade a spade here. Watch both clips. ...Lets call a spade a spade here. Watch both clips. Nino doesn't get Cammy's head - but he's going for it. Thats why Cammy is enraged. He came from behind and hits with his shoulder in an upward motion. Intent. It was a clean hit, but he was trying to ring Cammy's bell. This is not blaming the victim, but its a clear view as to why a seemingly enraged Cammy went after another player. <br /><br />No excuse for what Cammy did.. but what I'm reading is a whole lot of over-reaction to the actual crime that Cammy committed. He never should have hit Nino in the face, and he should be punished for it. But people are reacting like that is what he was trying to do - watch the clip. This is a high slash that is aimed with a stick at chest level.It was a bad high stick and should be punished as such. The slash on the legs is laughable for Nino's reaction. You'll see it 500 more times this year. I have honestly no idea why people are freaking out as if this is Todd Bertuzzi V2. Cammy will be suspended like he should be for 1-3 games.ErnieWhitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01674386049214990864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-28959706873441879542010-10-04T11:20:06.209-04:002010-10-04T11:20:06.209-04:00I'm sure I've seen slashes that didn't...I'm sure I've seen slashes that didn't connect that were still called. (And I'm not even talking about twigs breaking, which is another topic). It has to be blatant but the ref <b>has</b> to be able to control the game.<br /><br />I'm not saying Cammy's any more right, but that was a terrible game. The NHL should be ashamed.<br /><br />Oh and good thing the kid is 18.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09421632085677874545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-37006308811477936572010-10-04T11:11:52.042-04:002010-10-04T11:11:52.042-04:00Good on Cammy. Although he didn't pull a Cook...Good on Cammy. Although he didn't pull a Cooke-Savard, it was obvious that was close to a charge, a blantant intent to punish Cammy, just because he's a smaller forward. <br /><br />Cammy took justice into his own hands after the ref's turned away. And I'll tell you one thing: Niederreiter learned something that night. You think he's going to pull a stunt like that again? I'm sure he will curb it. And I'm sure players are grateful that Cammy stood up to him, and let him know that the INTENT TO INJURE IS UNACCEPTABLE... It's one thing to wack a guy on the ankle, which looked light and harmless, but it's another thing to intend to take someone out of the game, or out of the season, affecting the rest of his livelihood. Good on you, Cammy. And if you have to sit out the next couple of games, that's fine. The bigger picture is more important.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06956432024109350466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-17994178065851393222010-10-04T10:26:55.632-04:002010-10-04T10:26:55.632-04:00I just wanted to add... not only did the original ...I just wanted to add... not only did the original hit not blatantly target the head, but I believe that even the claim that this was a "blindside" is debatable. Before contact, you can see that Cammy is angled slightly inward towards the centre of the ice. Nino came in mostly from that side (though admittedly a bit from behind). If Cammy had his head up, he probably could have seen Nino coming, hence not a "blindside" hit. Because Cammy had his head down and was concentrating on making a pass to his teammate on the other side, that's what made the hit look worse than it was.Will Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200982656582974778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-65792058984233761802010-10-04T08:39:05.203-04:002010-10-04T08:39:05.203-04:00Hi Arpon,
I'll admit I was one of the Twitter...Hi Arpon,<br /><br />I'll admit I was one of the Twitter followers who initially defended Cammi's actions. However after watching both clips and reading your astute observations AND cooling down and taking a rational look at the situation, I 100% agree and cannot condone what Cammi has done.<br /><br />Now, the real question is, what is the NHL going to do about it? You're right that in siding even just a little bit with Cammalleri they stand to open a big can of worms. Does Cammalleri have a history or is this a first time offense?<br /><br />Great post as always! Looking forward to Thursday! GO HABS GO!djrsshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13306046289458250452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-31031774656888260472010-10-04T07:54:19.918-04:002010-10-04T07:54:19.918-04:00Hey Arpon,
Fair assessment, as always.
Please, wh...Hey Arpon,<br />Fair assessment, as always.<br /><br />Please, while in Toronna, make a run at the AAC poutine stand and come back telling us it's got nothing on La Banquise, or Rapido for that matter. That would reassure the troops!<br /><br />Cheers!yvresgyroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05820236792368022526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-703672817425686916.post-57488150438214630582010-10-04T05:12:32.137-04:002010-10-04T05:12:32.137-04:00I completely agree with you on that one. I was sur...I completely agree with you on that one. I was surprised to see so many habs fans try to justify the slash and exonerate Cammalleri because of the initial hit. Come on. We'd all be calling for Niederreiter's head if the situation was reversed and Cammy had been hit, highsticked in the face, cross-checked and slashed in the ankle after a hit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com